Debating Calvinism: Five Points, Two Views

Debating Calvinism Five Points Two Views A centuries old belief system is put to the test as two prominent authors examine and debate the subject of Calvinism from opposing viewpoints James White author of The Potter s Freedom takes the Ca

  • Title: Debating Calvinism: Five Points, Two Views
  • Author: Dave Hunt James R. White
  • ISBN: 9781590522738
  • Page: 106
  • Format: Paperback
  • A centuries old belief system is put to the test as two prominent authors examine and debate the subject of Calvinism from opposing viewpoints James White, author of The Potter s Freedom, takes the Calvinist position Dave Hunt, author of What Love Is This, opposes him The exchange is lively and at times intense as these two articulate men wrestle over what the ScriptureA centuries old belief system is put to the test as two prominent authors examine and debate the subject of Calvinism from opposing viewpoints James White, author of The Potter s Freedom, takes the Calvinist position Dave Hunt, author of What Love Is This, opposes him The exchange is lively and at times intense as these two articulate men wrestle over what the Scriptures tell us about God s sovereignty and man s free will This thought provoking, challenging book provides potent responses to the most frequently asked questions about Calvinism.Is God free to love anyone He wants Do you have any choice in your own salvation It s time to find out Calvinism has been a topic of intense discussion for centuries In this lively debate, two passionate thinkers take opposing sides, providing valuable responses to the most frequently asked questions about Calvinism Only you can decide where you stand on questions that determine how you think about your salvation Story Behind the BookThe subject of Calvinism has been hotly debated for many years, and now two prominent authors and researchers will debate this controversial topic in a book debate This project came about when Mr Hunt wrote What Love is This Calvinism s Misrepresentation of God Mr Hunt was challenged by many on the Calvinist bench and he eventually agreed to do a debate in a book format The books purpose is to get you to think and come to your own conclusions.

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    1. This is a good book if you're a new Calvinist or an Arminian beginning to study the issue.White demolishes Hunt at every turn. Hunt offers some of the most ridiculous and emotive arguments I've seen in a theological discussion. What we have here is confirmation of what seems to almost always be the case: Calvinists are just simply better theologians and exegetes than Arminians.Due to Hunt's ridiculous and libelous approach to Calvinism in this book, one can get annoyed fairly quickly. It's becau [...]

    2. Nothing sums up the "debate" in this book better than Dr. White's own final quotation of preaching great C. H. Spurgeon, so allow me to quote his quoting: "We must observe that there is nothing upon which men need to be more instructed than upon the question of what Calvinism really is. The most infamous allegations have been brought against us, and sometimes, I must fear, by men who knew them to be utterly untrue; and, to this day, there are many of our opponents, who, when they run short of ma [...]

    3. A friend gave me this book, knowing that I like reading Theology and whatnot, so I gave it a chance. I didn't learn much from it. It typefies what I really don't like about some pockets of Christian theology. There is a lot of self-righteous, cocky, condescending attitude on both sides of the debate and absolutely no feeling of brotherly love or mutual respect. I felt like the point of this book was for each of the writers to appear smarter than the other rather than to uncover any truth or even [...]

    4. This book was two guys engaging in a debate. The one guy gave a strong positive argument for his position along with tackling the strongest arguments against it. The other guy was disappointing, to me saddening, in the way he lobbed offensive grenades at various straw-man positions(without heeding clarifications from his opponent), while any hint of a positive argument was surface-level defensiveness.It's historically meaningful and interesting to see the positions of both men and the way they a [...]

    5. I got a lot more out of the first half when James White was presenting his arguments affirming Calvinism, mainly because I don't care for Dave Hunt's writing. After a while the whole thing just felt incredibly repetitive. It could have been 1/4 the length and said the same amount.

    6. This book contains a mismatched debate, and one not particularly glorifying to God. Not having read any other books by Hunt, I suspect he had bitten off much more than he could chew when he wrote "What Love is This?" and when he agreed to participate in this debate. I also suspect that many professing Arminians would disagree with Hunt's position. He just wasn't a good choice to represent that set of views.But, knowing what I do about White, it's only because of Hunt's publishing "What Love" tha [...]

    7. From the title, I expected a book where each side would present their key texts, and then the other would attempt to refute them/show the errors. This was definitely not what I found. Instead of the scholarly debate I expected, I found a schoolyard name-calling contests. By the end of the book I was so frustrated, because the same arguments were being used over and over and over. White did a fairly good job to make a good, Scriptural debate (except for the name-calling), but Hunt didn't even see [...]

    8. Having come to this book with the expectation of siding with both authors at times, since I was only at most a 4-point Calvinist (TUIP), I was surprised to come away from it with the 5th point firmly in my own pocket. White does a good job of explicating Calvinist doctrine, while Hunt continually demonstrates a lack of even understanding the system of faith he is trying to dismantle. In that regard, the purpose of the book as a debate is undermined. You cannot truly critique what you do not unde [...]

    9. This is the first book that I put back on the shelf before finishing in a long time. I guess I was expecting an informative and collegial debate. It was neither collegial or all that informative. The editor really made a mistake in choosing one the authors as the author did not follow the rules of the debate nor was he effectively arguing his side--I have seen much better in my limited experience with this debate. There are very learned theologians out there on both sides of this discussion that [...]

    10. A good premise foiled by poor author selection. James White is simply so much more intelligent, better educated, and more practiced in debate that the book is lopsided. This ultimately harms both sides, since the merits of the issue are difficult to decide when one side puts up a poor performance. Also, whereas White's views are fairly standard confessional Calvinism, Hunt is not a classical Arminian but a strange mix of evangelical and semi-Pelagian, leading to more confusion along the way.

    11. It kind of came across as an old school ranking contest! I would much rather read a book about Calvinism or Arminianismparately. Ironically enough for Dave Hunt, it was through one if his own books that I learned about God's sovereignty, the way a Calvinist would view it:/

    12. The two authors seemed to be talking past each other, and obviously have no respect or charity for their opponent. White is the more systematic of the two, but also more condescending. Hunt is scattershot and repetitive.

    13. This was awful. Dave Hunt is a terrible representative of Arminianism. A brother, to be sure, but a a poor choice. James White is marginally better, but still couldn't redeem it.

    14. What an interesting debate this book turned out to be. I've heard good things of Dave Hunt's ability to sit and debate with Roman Catholics. I respect anyone who has the ability to do this form of face-to-face apologetic work. However, Dave Hunt is a scatter-shot debater on paper. He lacks form and structure in his arguments and leaves White with piles of objections that he only has the ability (do to the page restriction on each debater) to answer a few. By basking in various forms of special p [...]

    15. The premise of this book is interesting: Two prominent Christian authors, who have very different theological views, publishing a book together in an attempt to clearly articulate the opposing sides of the age old debate about the system of soteriology (the doctrine of salvation) known as “Calvinism”. The book is presented as a written-word formal debate, where each author writes half the book. Each point is presented, followed by a response, a defense, and closing remarks from each writer. [...]

    16. This book is awful. Don't read it. Here are my main complaints:1) They are both awful debaters. I read a lot of reviews that said James White won or that he is superior but he's not. He's more confident and full of hot air so he sounds better. Neither one wins because the discussion devolves in a series of straw men attacks and stupid criticisms that don't have much merit in the conversation.2) As echoed before, James White is not that great of a debater. In fact, he is more annoying because his [...]

    17. I've found myself needing a "break" from this book on a few occasions. Although, it has been informative concerning the different aspects of Calvinism I haven't quite fully understood before. Nevertheless, it can be a bit of a chore to get through each chapter. The arguments tend to sound quite the same throughout each chapter, and the same points get brought up time and again by Dave Hunt, and you can get annoyed with the ignorant nature of his arguments. But I still think it is worth picking u [...]

    18. I was really excited about reading this book initially. The subject matter really fascinates me and I was excited to hear two opposing viewpoints debated out. In the end though, I mostly found both sides to be irritating and petty. I tended against the Calvinist side but either way, I just kept coming back to feeling like these weren't the key points and no one was listening to each other and all of this annoyed me tremendously. So yeah. It took a while to finish cause I just didn't want to read [...]

    19. This is a very bad tempered debate, and unfortunately both writers speak past one another. They respond to the weakest point of the other side and ignore the best, making it a frustrating book to read. White crowd at his opponent's lack of understanding, which is often justified, but then if he's so poorly matched then why write this book with him? Why not debate someone with more of a philosophical background who can get to grips with the issues surrounding compatibilism etc? And if Hunt's poin [...]

    20. Gets off topic easily, thanks mostly to Dave Hunt's laughable straw man portrayal of what he thinks Calvinism is. White writes well, but both authors seem to assume the reader has read their previous works or heard their debates. I felt like I was coming in mid-way through a conversation, and wondered why one of the conversationalists was so blatantly disrespectful and off-topic. I can't help but think there are better representatives of the Arminian view than Hunt.

    21. This is a great written debate on calvinism (Doctrines of Grace) between one of the best apologists and debaters in the reformed tradition vs an arminian sensationalist. After reading this book I'd advise you to read everything by James White and nothing more by Dave Hunt.The fact that anyone can read Romans 9, Ephesians 1&2, John 6, Daniel 4 and believe the arminian position still boggles my mind.

    22. I was looking forward to reading this book in a small group whose focus was learning more/refresher on Calvinism and Arminianism. I expected that both individuals would present fair scholarly arguments. Instead, the Calvinist really only focused on the issue of God's Sovereignty, and he represented a very conservative position. The Arminian simply refuted the Calvinist's claims, but didn't provide any positive evidence for his arguments. I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone.

    23. Not very impressed with this book. Was hoping for more of a dialogue instead of the men going after each other. And looking for a stronger defense of "Arminianism" from Mr. Hunt (not Arminian but looking to learn more about it). White further proves why he's one of the best Christian debaters of our time.

    24. James White did a fair job in his presentation, it was the non-attentive repetition from Dave Hunt that prevented this book from being nearly as useful as it could have been. Perhaps Michael Brown and James White will be abel to transcribe future debates and replace this book with a much more useful dialogue.

    25. This book is ok. I think it is great for asking "how would I respond to that?" And then seeing how that may or may not differ from the author. I think they could've found a better opponent for White though, since their comparative knowledge of the different positions and original languages made the book less helpful than it could've been.

    26. It's not about following a man but following scripture and James White blew Hunt out of the water by using scripture in context as a whole rather than ripping texts and arguing with man centered notions.

    27. A borrowed book that I had to return to the owner. Calvin, like so many other religious reformers, brought much error along with him in forming his new doctrine. A very interesting read.

    28. I persevered through this book even though it was a struggle. Whether or not I have a better understanding of the issues is still up for debate!

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