Tocht van de tienduizend

Tocht van de tienduizend Vijftig jaar oud schreef de Athener Xenofon ca v Chr wegens landverraad uit zijn vaderland verbannen op een landgoed in de Peloponnesus de eerste memoires die de literatuurgeschiedenis kent

  • Title: Tocht van de tienduizend
  • Author: Xenophon Gerard Koolschijn Tjit Reinsma
  • ISBN: 9789022841150
  • Page: 233
  • Format: Hardcover
  • Vijftig jaar oud schreef de Athener Xenofon ca 430 350 v Chr , wegens landverraad uit zijn vaderland verbannen, op een landgoed in de Peloponnesus de eerste memoires die de literatuurgeschiedenis kent Omdat de politieke situatie het hem onmogelijk maakte zijn ambities in Athene te verwezenlijken, had hij avontuur en fortuin gezocht bij de Perzische koningszoon Cyrus AVijftig jaar oud schreef de Athener Xenofon ca 430 350 v Chr , wegens landverraad uit zijn vaderland verbannen, op een landgoed in de Peloponnesus de eerste memoires die de literatuurgeschiedenis kent Omdat de politieke situatie het hem onmogelijk maakte zijn ambities in Athene te verwezenlijken, had hij avontuur en fortuin gezocht bij de Perzische koningszoon Cyrus Als vriend van n van de generaals van de Griekse huurtroepen waarmee Cyrus in 401 zijn broer Artaxerxes van de troon wilde stoten, belandde hij in Perzi Daar versloegen de tienduizend Grieken de honderdduizenden Perzen, maar Cyrus sneuvelde en de Grieken moesten maar zien hoe ze thuis kwamen Door verraad wisten de Perzen alle belangrijke Griekse officieren gevangen te nemen en te doden Beroofd van hun generaals, zonder eten, ingesloten door Eufraat en Tigris, duizenden kilometers van bevriend gebied, hadden de Grieken alle hoop hun vaderland nog te bereiken verloren Nadat zijn maandenlang aanvallen van Perzen en barbaarse bergvolken hadden doorstaan midden in de winter, steeds onzeker of ze de volgende dag voedsel zouden vinden zagen ze tenslotte vanaf een bergtop de Zwarte Zee, waar Griekse steden hen wachtten Maar daar ontbrandde de rivaliteit weer voortdurende strijd om het opperbevel, koehandel met het leger, processen, rellen, steniging, muiterij.

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    1. The Persian Expedition (or The Anabasis, or The March Up Country) tells the story of an army of Greek mercenaries who ended up fighting for the losing side of a Persian civil war and must travel through hostile territory to return home. And this isn't a metter of just dialing up 10,000 Uber rides (besides, the surge fee would be enormous), they have to march through hundreds of miles of hostile territory with both natives and the Persian army seeking to block their way. They are completely on th [...]

    2. The book is an account of Prince Cyrus's attempt in 401 BCE to replace his brother Ataxerxes II on the Persian throne. The narrative moves at a nice clip though at the expense of detail. The Ten Thousand, as the Greek mercenaries are known, advance a thousand miles from Greek Sardis in Asia Minor to Babylon only to have Cyrus die in battle and leave them stranded. I am not a big reader of military histories. This subject interested me because I had liked Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian [...]

    3. Kyros'un ağabeyi II. Artakserkes'le olan savaşında arkasına takılarak ona eşlik eden kitabın yazarı Xenophon ve önderliğindeki on binin (Hellen ordusu) geri dönüşünü sürükleyici ve destansı bir dille okuyucuya sunan "Anabasis: On Binler'in Dönüşü"nün (yaklaşık M.Ö. 370) Herodotus'un "Tarih"ine (yaklaşık M.Ö. 440) kıyasla daha az detay barındırması ve dilinin daha sade oluşu sebebiyle rahat okunabilen oldukça değerli bir tarihi eser olduğunu söylemeliyim. Öz [...]

    4. Xenophon has become a bit of a fascination of mine at the moment. I’ve started reading his Socratic Conversations – which I’ll review when I finish, but am finding remarkable – and then I found this as a talking book under the title The March of the Ten Thousand. I’ve just finished listening to this. Amazing story. A group of Greek mercenaries go off to raid, rape and pillage their way through Persia, when things go awry – seriously awry. All of the leaders are killed – one after b [...]

    5. Herodotus might have been the Father of History, but Xenophon was the cool, older brother. This one-time pupil of Socrates is one of those soldier/scholars who makes both intellectuals and warriors feel inadequate. 'The Persian Expedition' or 'March of the Ten Thousand' or 'Anabasis' (all depending on your version or translation) relates the story told by Xenophon of his experiences fighting with and leading the 10,000 Hellene mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger and the army's 3000+ mile marc [...]

    6. I figured it was about time that I finally read Xenophon's "Anabasis." When I was in HS, students studying Greek either learned enough Greek to do some Homer, more challenging, but more fun, or Xenophon, who has a limited vocabulary, focus and a plain style which makes him good for people learing basic Attic Greek. That said, I would have to class this with Caesar's "Gallic Wars," which do the same for Latin (as a Latin student, I was prepped to read Caesar). For Caesar, the choice of a limited [...]

    7. The marched and fought their way right round Turkey! And a good chunk of Iraq, too! All the way from the Ionian coast to Mesopotamia — they got within fighting distance of Babylon – and then all the way back to the Bosporus (here's a map). They fought the Persians, the Kurds, the Armenians, the Thracians and anyone else who got in their way. And all they were doing was trying to get home.It took them fifteen months. There were ten thousand of them to begin with and eight thousand left at the [...]

    8. The story Xenophon tells has been called the world's first great novela gripping narrative that builds up a single episode from the past into an exploration of the struggles and the values that shape human destiny." —Preface by Theodore K. Rabb __________I really enjoyed this. Exciting, suspenseful, lots of action, an undertone of seriousness with examples of Socratic Reasoning from Xenophon. A great story.I think it would be a great for anyone who is looking for an entry into Greek History or [...]

    9. La favola dell'Anabasi.Calvino ha scritto" l'Anabasi è il primo diario di guerra della letteratura occidentaleè il memoriale tecnico di un ufficiale, un giornale di viaggio con tutte le distanze e i punti di riferimento geografici E' una rassegna di problemi diplomatici, logistici, strategici" Per me l'Anabasi non è solo una minuziosa cronaca di guerra è una favola della mia infanzia che mia madre raccontava mentre io restavo incantata ad ascoltare la storia ammantata di mistero di diecimila [...]

    10. Picked up at Moe’s on Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley and read as a little break from Piketty’s Capital in the 21st Century and as a diversion from last week's various news stories that were bumming me out. Them nutty ancient Greeks have a way of cheering me up.Xenophon’s Anabasis was supposed to be one of the upcoming editions in the excellent Landmark Ancient Histories series, but there hasn’t been a new one of those in years.So when I saw a used Penguin edition for $6 I figured I could pro [...]

    11. Anabasis (also rendered as The March of the Ten Thousand or The Persian Expedition) is a firsthand account of the Greeks' participation in Cyrus the Younger's revolt against his brother King Artaxerxes II, and their perilous return journey to the Black Sea after Cyrus' death in the Battle of Cunaxa.Xenophon highlights the myriads of challenges a general faces in leading an army and carrying out a successful campaign. In addition to providing for a large army, commanding their respect and obedien [...]

    12. Xenophon is an ambitious 20ish man from a prominent family in Athens. He agrees to his friend Proxenus urging to fight for Prince Cyrus,younger brother of Artaxerxes II , the Persian king in 401 B.C.With the end of the Peloponnesian War and Sparta's victory over Athens.The impoverished Greeks look to the Persian Empire for loot.Cyrus doesn't tell his foreign mercenaries, the 10,000,that he wants to replace his brother as king.The Greeks were recruited to defeat local enemies and make money. When [...]

    13. After I read the Anabasis (the March Upcountry), I almost immediately began writing my first novel based on the events of the first dozen pages. Xenophon's prose is sweet, his story captivating and I highly recommend it for any reader.

    14. "Анабазис" було написано майже 2,5 тисячі років тому. Стиль мислення, спосіб викладу думок з того часу змінився, а тому згаданий твір, як здається на перший погляд, мав би бути лише історіографічною цінністю - важливим першоджерелом для істориків Античності.Проте таке вражен [...]

    15. Anabasis is a Greek word for 'marching up' that has become synonymous with military retreat. Although it's a cracking tale of leadership and perseverance in the face of adversity, it's well worth the read for the sheer wealth of information on ancient customs and social mores.We have a tendency to think that ancient man was a sort of imbecile, but in truth, it's amazing how little we've changed -if at all. Sure we (mostly) don't pillage, trade in slaves, or arbitrarily put people to death anymor [...]

    16. A modern re-titling could be "The Adventures of Xenophon." I've given this 5 stars because the book is unique. It tells the autobiographical tale of Xenophon, then a twenty-something Athenian, student of Socrates, who joined a grand military campaign of Cyrus, son of Darius. Keeping his intentions secret from his ever-growing body of troops, Cyrus's goal is to de-throne his brother, Artaxerxes II, King of Persia. As Cyrus and his army traverse vast territory and engage in various military exploi [...]

    17. The greatest adventure story in historyLittle, if any proof of Socrates' life exists, reliant as we are on the writings of his two famous pupils: Plato and Xenophon, the former being revered as one of humanity's greatest thinkers, the latter remembered for his march home from Persia, the subject of which concerns this book. And yet, the Persian expedition, or The Anabasis to give it its proper title, is no mere tale of adventure, a plethora of such tales was readily available in a country (Greec [...]

    18. Xenophon left Athens and joined an army of ten thousand Greeks led by Cyrus against the Persian king, Artaxerxes, brother of Cyrus. They succeed, but Cyrus is killed. Upon his death it is up to Xenophon to return the warriors from Babylon to Athens. These are his stories, both of the battles and the 'march up country' (aka, Anabasis).Xenophon's descriptions of the battles, the warriors, home lives, politics, etc. are all incredibly detailed. He speaks of himself in the third person, lending itse [...]

    19. I finished Xenophon’s, The Persian Expedition. The work had been characterized to me in two ways: first, it was described as having been written in “easy” Greek, often used by British schoolboys as their primer when learning the Greek language, and whereas I did not read it in its original language I was nonetheless struck by its simple, indeed at times almost primitive, syntax, and I could not help but compare it with Caesar’s history, The Gallic Wars, often described in much the same w [...]

    20. Given the name of our blog, I would like to introduce a book truly legendary: Anabasis by Xenophon. Stay calm, it is not a book of philosophy or a Greek tragedy. It is a history book, but you can read it like an adventures one. An adventure that took place about 2400 years ago, but what adventure it was! A march full of struggles and all kinds of hardships through a hostile territory. A story worthy of ancient Greek heroes, bold action that amounts to those made by their predecessors decades bef [...]

    21. "please don't go away until you've heard me tell you the trouble I see just beginning to rear its ugly head in the army."In this ancient manuscript which has amazingly survived from 370BC, Xenophon details the enlistment and retreat of several thousand Greek mercenaries in The Expedition of Cyrus. Xenophon was an eye-witness and general during this campaign, but chooses to write the narrative in third person, which I found a really interesting decision. I found that the perspective made Xenophon [...]

    22. Gripping, fascinating story of highly disciplined Greek hoplites stranded in hostile territory far from home who must regroup and force their way through Kurdish territory. After the famous 'The Sea! the Sea!' moment, however, the book was considerably less interesting - the army begins to fracture and strain under lack of supplies and lack of real leadership (author Xenophon notwithstanding). It was a quick read, and a very enlightening one for me.It also strikes a little bit of a chord with me [...]

    23. THE PERSIAN EXPEDITION. Xenophon. ***.This book, in the form of a diary – which many scholars think it was – tells of Xenophon’s takeover of a Greek army of about 10,000 troops and leading them on a retreat back to Greece. His promotion came as a result of the original leaders of the troops getting into a fight and killing each other. Lots of material here is very skimmable, telling of minor battles with a variety of tribes as the major force attempted to get back to their homeland. One of [...]

    24. An excellent read that has been up till now, sitting on my ever growing TBR pile. There are several interesting aspects of this book, not the least of which for me personally is reading it while sitting not far from where some of the events took place. I also found it fascinating that at least some of the fighting the Greek army took part in was a direct cause of not having the ability to get the local population to understand their intent, not being one of conquest, but simply moving through te [...]

    25. Comencé a leer Anábasis por recomendación de Italo Calvino en su libro ¿por qué leer a los clásicos? ; lo he terminado con pesar puesto que éste libro pertence a aquellos que no puede uno soltar de las manos y se devora febrilmente al mismo tiempo que no deseas que termine, y cuando esto finalmente sucede se teme no volver a encontrar una historia tan maravillosa. Cualquier cosa que diga sobre Jenofonte y su obra quedará bastante corta, así que citaré a otro grande a éste respecto: " [...]

    26. Did anyone else think that the parallel between the story of the soldiers getting honey in on their journey that they had to eat for days until it was seen as "at least nourishment and medicine to the bones" was similar to manna in the old testament? Anyone else find that correlation amusing? On other matters Xenophon is a bit of a hoot for being somewhat self interested is he not? I found the writing very plain and easy to read. The story got boring in a few bits but had a lot of good moments a [...]

    27. Wonderful book! I recommend it to those who are interested yet a bit intimidated by Classical literature. Xenophon moves at a fast pace yet the reader can still follow the story of ten thousand Greek soldiers seemingly trapped in the middle of Persia.It's fascinating to see how Greek forces operate. Western civilization seems to have been influenced the most by Roman military tradition with its chain of command from supreme commanders to soldiers. The Greeks, however, were very democratic, even [...]

    28. Cyrus the Younger versus Artaxerxes - a tantalizing match-up for any age's military fancy. Xenophon loses Cyrus somewhere near Babylon and has to lead his ten thousand through the hostile deserts of Asia. This is the original "Let's get the hell outta' here!" tale. In addition, it is a splendid insight into the military travails, comradeship, and diplomacy experienced before the Hellenistic Age. For fun, count how many times Xenophon says he can't talk about something because it would offend the [...]

    29. The introduction (this review is of the Penguin Classics Rex Warner translation with an introduction by George Cawkwell) makes it clear that Xenophon probably inflated his role in the events portrayed. So this may be the first (though certainly not the last) recorded instance of an old soldier spicing up his wartime reminiscences with a healthy dollop of lies. Whether it’s fictionalized or not, it makes for a good read, at least up until the last 10 or so pages. They sort of devolve into Xenop [...]

    30. A very readable account of the ten thousand Greek mercenaries who unwittingly accompanied Cyrus the Younger into Persia as told by the man who would come to be the leader of the Greeks after defeat at the Battle of Cunaxa. Xenophon's simple style makes for an enjoyable, light read that is equal parts adventure and horror. The best part of the account, however, are the details on ancient society, culture, and warfare that are interspersed throughout the march.

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