Sügavik taevas

S gavik taevas Inimkond on koduplaneedilt ammu v lja murdnud Ehkki valgusest kiiremini reisimist nagu paljusid muid asju nimetatakse t itumatuteks unistuseks liiguvad l bi kosmose laevad mille meeskond magab aast

  • Title: Sügavik taevas
  • Author: Vernor Vinge Liisi Ojamaa
  • ISBN: 9789949459926
  • Page: 465
  • Format: Hardcover
  • Inimkond on koduplaneedilt ammu v lja murdnud Ehkki valgusest kiiremini reisimist nagu paljusid muid asju nimetatakse t itumatuteks unistuseks , liiguvad l bi kosmose laevad, mille meeskond magab aastasadu ja elab seet ttu aastatuhandeid Nad asustavad maailmu, kus t usevad ja varisevad tsivilisatsioonid Nad p avad pidada sidet ja luua htset kultuuri Nad otsivadInimkond on koduplaneedilt ammu v lja murdnud Ehkki valgusest kiiremini reisimist nagu paljusid muid asju nimetatakse t itumatuteks unistuseks , liiguvad l bi kosmose laevad, mille meeskond magab aastasadu ja elab seet ttu aastatuhandeid Nad asustavad maailmu, kus t usevad ja varisevad tsivilisatsioonid Nad p avad pidada sidet ja luua htset kultuuri Nad otsivad kosmoseavarustest Galaktika saladusi ja teisi elusolendeid Kuni nende teadlased tabavad rmiselt anomaalsest s steemist saabuva raadiosignaali See on v imalus tutvuda teise rassiga See on v imalus arendada teadust See on v imalus koguda varandust ja v imu SisseV lja t he juures kaheksa tuhat aastat on j lgitud, kuidas see p leb tavalise t hena umbes 40 aastat ja on siis paar sajandit kustunud kohtuvad kaks inimkonna laevastikku Kas eesm rgid on hised Kuidas kulgeb koost S gavik taevas on sama autori teose Leek s gaviku kohal eellugu, olles niimoodi sarja Zones of Thought esimene raamat Sarja kuulub ka 2011 aastal kirjutatud The Children of the Sky.

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    1. In the 'The Sixth Sense', the character Malcolm tries to tell a story. Unfortunately, it's a bad story, which Cole immediately picks up on, and comments, "You have to add some twists and stuff."I tend to think that the essence of a well-crafted story is the unexpected. A good story has unexpected tragedies, unexpected joys, and unexpected crowning moments of awesome. Yet, there are a surprisingly few good writers that are also good story tellers. In fact, when it comes right down to it, I think [...]

    2. Vernor Vinge, a scientist who can tell a good yarn, another anomaly among genre writers, the other anomalous authors being China Miéville and David Brin, and they are all bald! Makes me want to shave my head, I bet Patrick Stewart can write amazing books if he wanted to, make it so Pat!A few months ago I read A Fire Upon the Deep, Vinge's first "Zones of Thought" novel, it quickly barged its way into my all-time top 20 list. A Deepness in the Sky is not going to dislodge another book from that [...]

    3. A Deepness in the Sky: Might have been interesting at half the lengthOriginally posted at Fantasy LiteratureA Fire Upon the Deep was a big success for Vernor Vinge, winning the 1993 Hugo Award. Seven years later, he followed up with A Deepness in the Sky, set 20,000 years earlier in the same universe, and this captured the 2000 Hugo Award and John W. Campbell Award. I came to both books with high expectations and was eager for a big-canvas space opera filled with mind-boggling technologies, exot [...]

    4. 4.5 stars. First--This is one of the best books I have read in a very long time, and, despite the fact that it doesn't quite earn a 5 star rating from me (more on that later), I would highly recommend the book to anyone who's remotely interested in science fiction. It's a testament to the book that I managed to finish it while in the midst of an extraordinarily busy semester. Vinge really hits the balance of "science" and "fiction" almost perfectly--and, even though the book weighs in at a hefty [...]

    5. I love science fiction stories that incorporate novel concepts, and this one introduces several intriguing concepts. First, there is the variable sun that goes through a long on-off cycle. Second, there are the alien creatures living on a planet in the sun's system that have evolved to live through this cycle. They are called "spiders" because they are short and have multiple limbs. Then there are the Qeng Ho, a loosely organized human civilization whose culture is based on interstellar trading. [...]

    6. Apie pirmąją šios trilogijos knygą, "Liepsnojančios gelmės: Pirma knyga", rašiau, kad nebloga, kad faina, kad nerd friendly. Tai šita, antroji, visiškai perspjovė pirmąją. Pagal idėją, viziją, vystymą, sociumo kūrimą ir netgi intelektinį siužeto suplanavimą ši knyga niekuo nenusileidžia net pačiam Dune, o aš tokiais palyginimais paprastai stengiuosi nesimėtyti. Tiesiog puiki knyga, tikras perliukas kiekvienam saifajaus mėgėjui.

    7. Cu mii de ani înainte ca omenirea să descopere existența Zonelor Gânditoare, Qeng Ho, o organizație interplanetară a comercianților, a recepționat o serie de semnale ce ar indica prezența unei specii inteligente în apropierea straniei Stelei Fluctuante. Entuziasmul posibilității stabilirii unui contact cu o specie necunoscută le înflăcărează imaginația comercianților și pe cea a emergenților (de-a lungul a opt mii de ani de călătorii prin spațiu, oamenii au întâlnit doa [...]

    8. I was imagining a movie version while I was reading this one. half of the movie would be animated and would feature adorable spider-aliens. love those aliens. but I don't know what I'd do about the endless cycle of rape and mind control that happens to a particularly sympathetic character. I don't think I'd want that in my movie.

    9. I don't know about you, but I spend an inordinate amount of time meditating upon the far future of humanity. I don't just worry about the future of my generation, or the future of the generation after mine, or the future of a couple of generations down the line. I'm talking one-, ten-, fifty-thousand years into the future. Will humanity still exist—would we recognize it as humanity even if it does? How many times between now and then will civilizations rise and fall? Because if there's one con [...]

    10. I honestly have no idea how to even rate this. Objectively, it's a very solid book. Vinge's prose is kind of dry and his habit of throwing a bunch of hints at you before really telling you what's going on is alternately effective and obnoxious.I found the first few hundred pages terribly hard to read, though. It's not a pleasant story, and Vinge doesn't pull any punches. If you're like me and triggered by deception, manipulation, and oh, rape with bonus memory-erasure buyer beware. Vinge also li [...]

    11. I had, it must be admitted, a hard time getting into this one. I'd pick it up and read a bit, but not make much real headway. Partly it's because other books that people had on hold at the library came in, or I needed to blast something through to be ready for my book club. These external factors, however, weren't all of it. Once I finally did get into the book, I really enjoyed it.Note: The rest of this review has been withdrawn due to the changes in policy and enforcement. You can read why I [...]

    12. Have you ever read someone else's review of a book and thought, "Yes! That is exactly how I felt!" Well, Apatt has nailed this one for me. To the extent that I'm not sure what else to add.Seriously. Go read his review first, and then come back to hear me witter on if you're still interestedSo what can I add to that?My first experience with Vinge was Rainbow's End, which I did not get along with. I thought it was rubbish. I picked up A Fire Upon the Deep as a Hugo winner, with a kind of grim dete [...]

    13. Vernor Vinge has hit a home run twice in a row. A Deepness in the Sky had all the fantastic alienness mixed with human drama and far future sci-fi awesomeness that made A Fire Upon the Deep one of my favorite SF novels ever. I've become a lot pickier about my sci-fi, but A Deepness in the Sky has held up even better than the first book in the twelve years since it was written.At its heart is a conflict between two starfaring cultures: the Qeng Ho, a culture of interstellar traders who take the l [...]

    14. I loved this and was up all night finishing it. That's rather rare with science fiction, at least hard science fiction. Few science fiction writers--hell, few writers--have Vinge's sense of pacing and ability to create suspense. That's because you care about his characters intensely, human as well as alien. Not something you find enough in Hard Science Fiction--and Vinge brings off some mind-blowing concepts without ever falling into infodump or other awkward constructions. I thought I had read [...]

    15. An interesting variation on a science fiction theme I am especially fond of, the first-contact story. In this case, the monstrous alien invaders are the humans, conspiring to foment nuclear war among a race of unsuspecting intelligent arachnoids. To make things more interesting (and give us some anthropomorphs to cheer for), the humans are also divided up into good guys and bad guys.Of course, the above variation has already been explored in SF. Frederik Pohl's Jem springs to mind; indeed, Pohl [...]

    16. This is a fantastic story. Books like this are why people read science fiction. Sure, it's got aliens and spaceships and technology that you have to use your imagination to understand, but at the core of it is a series of characters who are undergoing struggles that are truly timeless. I love this stuff.I probably never will get tired of a well-written story where people are struggling against a ruthless tyrant. This is represented well here by Tomas Nau, the Emergent Podmaster, in control of hi [...]

    17. I really ought to know better by now. It doesn't matter whether an award is given out by fans or by peers, critics or the general public, whether the criteria is ostensibly "best" this or "favourite" that.Awards are a crap shoot, influenced by fashions, by lobbying and by plain old bad taste.That's right, I said it. Sometimes an award is given out to a book (or a movie, or a play, or a poem — the list is as endless as variations in the arts) that simply doesn't deserve it. That doesn't even me [...]

    18. Wow, it's been a whole year since I reviewed A Fire Upon the Deep. If you remember back to that book, I said I was only going to read this one if it was better, and it was better, better enough that I wanted to know what happened even though I had some major issues with the book going in. And this one was slow, too, but not quite as slow as Fire. But let's just cut to itThe first major issue with this book is that it's barely related to the first book in this "trilogy." Vaguely. Like, there's a [...]

    19. This is an Michener-sized epic tale of conflict, cooperation and betrayal between two human civilizations racing to make first contact with an alien race.To a very small extent, this is a prequel to Vinge's A Fire Upon The Deep — it is set much earlier in the same universe, and features the character Pham Nuwen (who plays a somewhat unusual role in Fire).While Fire involves the interactions between many races, Deepness takes place before humans had met any other technological civilizations. It [...]

    20. I had a little trouble getting into this book the first time, put it down and tried again a few months later. The main problem, initially, was that I couldn't figure out how the two main story lines were relatedd got frustated with the switching. The second time through, it became obvious that the "Sherkaner Underhill" character and his people were the spider aliens that the two human cultures were travelling to make contact with, though you really can't tell, from the narrative, that they aren' [...]

    21. Neizmjerno sam uživala čitajući ovu knjigu. Prava je poslastica, od prve pa sve do zadnje stranice. Kakva dobra ideja! Koja kompleksna zanimljiva savršeno ispričana priča! Odlični likovi! Totalno sam navijala za pozitivce, bila tužna zbog njih, radovala se njihovim pobjedama. I paukoliki likovi koji bi mi se u biti nekako gadili (zato što su paukoliki, jel!) osmišljeni su s toliko ljudskosti da ih čovjek jednostavno ne može ne zavoljeti. :) Ma joj, pet zvjezdica nije dovoljno za nju, [...]

    22. I understand the appeal of this book. I loved A Fire Upon The Deep. But I was very disappointed in this one. It all came down to the spiders.One would think that an alien species evolving many, many light years from Earth would end up with a culture, history, and technological advancement utterly alien (pun intended) to what Earth spawned. Instead, we find the spiders living in a near carbon copy of 20th-century Earth.I know much of what we read with the spiders is supposed to be coming at us th [...]

    23. There is much to like about this book, the story of delegations from two seperate human cultures, one based on trade and the other on slavery, whose conflict leaves them marooned near the planet of the Spiders. In order to justify their trip and make their return home possible, they must wait for the alien culture below to attain a certain level of technology. There are interesting speculations about the nature of interstellar and planetary societies and imaginative extrapolations on technology. [...]

    24. The concept behind the book was great, the characters were all developed well but the execution of the story itself flowed like mud through a sieve. The jumping back and forth, in the beginning, between the two races was fine. The merging of the two stories helped give you a sense of being and perspective that these were two separate cultures coming together. Nevertheless, Vinge has a bad habit of wanting to develop his character's history too much and continually dives into story-in-itself flas [...]

    25. It's been thousands of years since humanity has spread to the stars. There is no galactic empire, the physics of star travel don't really allow for that, but there are hundreds of worlds, some of which have fallen into barbarism and recreated their civilization several times over. But rarely has there been something truly new until now. Two of these distantly separated branches of humanity reunite at an astrological anomaly, chasing radio signals that are truly alien one is the Qeng Ho, an inter [...]

    26. This one is just as good - if not better - than the first. It's got almost nothing to do plot-wise with the first one, so the two stand alone really well. This one surrounds these two groups of humans - the Qeng Ho, an interstellar trader organization that's existed for centuries, and the Emergents, an oppressive civilization that's only just recently recovered from a Dark Age - as both groups discover a planet that orbits something called the On/Off Star; a star that becomes dormant, releases l [...]

    27. The planet Arachna orbits a strange star, called OnOff because it goes though phases of light and dark lasting centuries. During the light part of the cycle life flourishes. The biosphere is dominated by a race of 3' high, sentient spiders, who have attained a level of civilization close to early 20th century Earth. The world is split into nations who don't get along and culture has backslid many times due to annihilating wars. Then the star goes dark, everything freezes (including the atmospher [...]

    28. I loved this epic. Two groups of humans are converging on the only planet that revolves around the On/Off star. The Queng Ho are a group of traders that have been loosely connected for thousands of years. The Emergents are from a planet fairly recently back (in relationship to the Queng Ho) after an apocolyptic event of some kind. While the Queng Ho have quite sophisticated technology, the Emergents have Focus.The two groups converge on the On/Off system during an off period, when the sentient, [...]

    29. This is a prequel of sorts to another of Vinge's Hugo Award-winning novels, A Fire Upon the Deep, although it can be read independently. They're both good books, but I liked this one better.It's fascinating far-future hard science fiction with some unusual elements: humans have spread out into the galaxy but their technology does not include faster-than-light travel or anti-gravity. Human lifetimes have been extended to a few hundred years, but the interstellar travelers featured in this story u [...]

    30. (Spoiler free review, at least as far as possible)This is a prequel to A Fire Upon the Deep, set in the days of the Qeng Ho from which Pham Nuwen rose. It's works perfectly fine as a standalone novel and in my opinion even outshines it's great predecessor.The zones so important to the first book are merely hinted upon here, but this novel features the most fascinating and detailed description of an alien society I've read (even beating that in The Mote Series. You can't help but like the creepy [...]

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