Aşkın Suçları

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  • Title: Aşkın Suçları
  • Author: Marquis de Sade Cema Süreya
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  • Page: 216
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  • Douze ans s parent la premi re r daction des Crimes de l amour, en 1787 la Bastille, de leur publication Douze ans durant lesquels le monde a eu le temps de changer La R volution a balay l Ancien R gime, et la Terreur emport bien des illusions Sade a fait l exp rience de la mis re, il cherche survivre de sa plume et entend se donner une nouvelle identit d homme dDouze ans s parent la premi re r daction des Crimes de l amour, en 1787 la Bastille, de leur publication Douze ans durant lesquels le monde a eu le temps de changer La R volution a balay l Ancien R gime, et la Terreur emport bien des illusions Sade a fait l exp rience de la mis re, il cherche survivre de sa plume et entend se donner une nouvelle identit d homme de lettres Ces bouleversements suffiraient expliquer l ampleur des modifications que l crivain apporte aux nouvelles des Crimes de l amour lorsqu il entreprend de les publier De nombreux passages ont t retranch s, la th matique est resserr e, l ordre m me des nouvelles a t boulevers Pr c d d une Id e sur les romans, ce recueil de onze nouvelles, h ro ques et tragiques, s ouvre alors sur Juliette et Raunai , nouvelle historique, et culmine au sommet de l art de Sade avec Florville et Courval et Eug nie de Franval Les Crimes de l amour sont ici publi s pour la premi re fois dans une dition int grale et critique compl te, avec toutes les variantes importantes entre le manuscrit et l dition de 1800 Cette nouvelle lecture des Crimes de l amour nous plonge ainsi au coeur des tourments si chers au divin Marquis.

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    1. It’s officially, I am a great fan of Marquis de Sade and I want to read everything he has ever written. At first I was quite surprised that he wasn’t as controvertional as I was expecting, but as soon as I got more in the book, there we go… consented incest between father and daughter; revengeful women that hate their daughters because they want to fuck their lovers; puritan women that once had children before marriage (…) and, the cherry on top of the cake was when at the end of Crimes [...]

    2. Aşkın Suçları'nı okurken sık sık kitap kapağına bakma ihtiyacı hissettim; çünkü alışkın olduğum Marquis de Sade stilinden oldukça farklı bir stilde yazılmış üç öyküyü barındırıyor kitap. Hatta acaba çeviri ya da yayınevi (Cemal Süreya ve Notos olsa bile) kurbanı oldu da bazı yerler atlandı mı diye bile düşündüm; fakat birkaç İngilizce yoruma bakmam öyle olmadığını anlamama yetti. Her neyse Aşkın Suçları, üç öyküden oluşuyor. Ayrıca bu öy [...]

    3. I have read these stories, written by de Sade while incarcerated in Charenton, over and over again. They are the only of his works that I truly treasure. He wrote them late in a debauched life and they are infused with a melancholy moralism (think Voltaire in a terrible mood), where few people have pure motives (and virtually everyone meets a bad end), effusive, romantic prose can turn surreal and footnotes can meditate on dreams in a way that presages and far outstrips the insights of Freud. I [...]

    4. Το Εγκλήματα του έρωτα περιλαμβάνουν 5 νουβέλες στις οποιες ο Ντε Σαντ παίζει το κλασσικό παιχνίδι του Θύτη και του Θύματος, περιγράφοντας ξανά και ξανά τα βάσανα και τις παγίδες που πέφτουν μέσα οι ενάρετοι λόγω του οτι είναι ενάρετοι. Η διαφορά του με άλλα βιβλία που έχω δ [...]

    5. C'est vraiment moins pire que je le pensais. C'est clair que je lirai d'autres oeuvres de Sade, beaucoup trop brillant (même si les relations familiales sont assez étranges)

    6. Aş putea spune că seria de nuvele (cum le intitulează editorii; mai degrabă povestiri) m-a captivat şi chiar voiam să le las o evaluare de patru stele, dar am fost oprit de deja mult prea comuna tehnică prin care Sade îşi pedepseşte personajele. Am citit pentru prima dată ,,Justine'' şi am fost impresionat, dar relativa moderare care îi conferă acelei opere un caracter moralizator şi totodată elevat dispare în celelalte texte ale sale. Poveştile de dragoste sunt pătate de mult [...]

    7. Literatura sobre el amor es algo que no aguanto, resulta empalagoso y exagerado. Pero los relatos de Sade no me da esa sensación y eso que su base es el amor. Trata el tema de manera de manera muy original, yo le llamaría: Terror de amor. Todos sus personajes se enamoran, pero esta ceguera hace que todo acabe desastrosamente. La famosa frase: lucha por lo que amas y lo acabaras consiguiendo. Pues bien, aquí luchan y acaban consiguiendo el desastre, el horros, la fatalidad. Muestra muy bien el [...]

    8. No sabía si ponerle 2 o 3 estrellas, finalmente me decidí por 3. Resulta que el Marqués de Sade podía ser mucho más sutil de lo que conocíamos. En estos no tan breves relatos el sexo en su sentido más común no aparece sino insinuado, y muy marginalmente; sin embargo, las narraciones nos hablan del más puro goce. Quizá sin parecerlo, sea esta la obra más perversa del Marqués, mostrando el lado más trágico de la perversión.

    9. I decided to watch movies from a list I found on the internet of the most disturbing films ever made. The most recent of which was called "Salo, 120 days of Sodom". 120 Days of Sodom was originally written by the Marquis de Sade. I find that I'm running into a lot of people who are not actually familiar with the Marquis de Sade, which includes my mother (which, when you think of it, is the one person who should not know about the Marquis de Sade, right?). Anyway, the Marquis de Sade was a French [...]

    10. 3,5 étoiles.Si je devais conseiller une édition pour lire Les crimes de l'amour, c'est sans hésitation celle-ci que je choisirais : contrairement aux éditions de poche, les 11 nouvelles y figurent, accompagnées de notes critiques très intéressantes. La comparaison entre les passages du manuscrit des années 1780 et la version publiée en 1800 témoignent du désir de Sade de devenir un homme de lettres, mais également du changement d'état d'esprit général après la Révolution : le po [...]

    11. Following a very poignant dissertation on novels and writing, Sade embarks on stories of remarkable human cruelty. His hand is assured and his prose crisp. We are in 18th century Europe and life is still a grandiose believable illusion of virgins to be married, war, revenge, love and death. Sade paints the most virtuous people and the most decadent monsters with equal care to have characters with personal convictions, consistencies and occasional change of hearts. Well orchestrated and well expl [...]

    12. After reading Sade's other literature, I have found this book a bit watered down. I do not feel it is Sade at his fullest. However his philosophy is still apparent, though not very. Still it was very enjoyable to read because of his reflections, and the stories, while watered down, were very moralizing and kept me wanting to know how the tragedy he put his characters through would end: In virtue, or in sorrow? Though to Sade these two words usually went hand in hand, I did not find it true in th [...]

    13. De Sada je uvek zadovoljstvo čitati, čak i kada je ovako uzdržan i proračunat i kada uopšte ne liči na ono razulareno stvorenje iz 120 dana Sodome ili Filozofije u budoaru. Nekako sam uvek njegova dela doživljavao prepuštajući se uživanju u otkačenim i preteranim rečenicama, zapletima i situacijama, ne analizirajući ga previše ozbiljno, a trebalo je, jer on je očigledno imao ozbiljan duhovni i intelektualni razvoj ma koliko odavao utisak simpatičnog ludaka i razvratnika.

    14. So doesn’t have the Bantam edition of Crimes of Love that I read. They only have this Oxford World Classics edition which seems to be much longer. The book I read has 3 short novellas in it: “Eugenie de Franval,” “Miss Henrietta Stralson,” and “Florville and Courval.” Now, I had never read de Sade before. I have read a lot of other people who had read de Sade, such as Angela Carter ( The Sadeian Woman), Octavio Paz ( An Erotic Beyond), and maybe a little bit by some continental ph [...]

    15. ahlaksızlığın filozofu olarak bilinen marquis de sade'ın 3 uzun öyküsünün bir araya geldiği bu kitap, onu tanımak için iyi bir başlangıç olabilir. zaman zaman gereksiz detaylara girmiş olsa da oldukça akıcı ve merak uyandırıcı hikayeler bunlar: cinayet, aldatma, ensest, dolandırıcılık gibi türlü suçlar. ahlaksızlığı savunduğu iddia edilerek geçmişten bugüne çeşitli çevrelerce hor görülse de hikayelerin sonları göz önünde bulundurulduğunda suçun sav [...]

    16. I must admit, this book has been on my bookshelf a very long time; bought due to my curiosity about the Marquis' notoriety.The only reason I have read it now is that it was the book club selection for the club I run this month.I have to say, I was very disappointed. After everything I know about the Marquis de Sade and his antics and reputation, I was expecting to require a fan and a cold shower. The cold shower was needed to wake me up, not cool me down!!Not only were these stories not racey, t [...]

    17. Un giro inesperado de Sade. Nunca hubiera pensado toparme con un libro como este, pues es todo lo contrario a lo que el Marqués escribió durante su vida, pero es de buen gusto saber cómo la gente tiene versatilidad para la perspectiva de vida y no se obsesiona con un solo tópico. Los Crímenes del Amor son tres historias completamente diferentes al placer, la lujuria y el desenfreno; están basados en el heroísmo del amor, la prueba del elegido y la recompensa del luchador. Lo recomiendo am [...]

    18. Sem nota porque não tive tempo de terminar o livro. Lembro que gostei mais do que esperava, até onde li. Da minha resenha no Bookcrossing: "Li os três contos mais curtos. Me lembrou o Álvares de Azevedo , só que melhor escrito (embora não acredite nem por um minuto que a condessa de Sancerre tenha se arrependido no final)."

    19. Una faceta diferente del Márquez. En cuatro relatos nos muestra ese lado oscuro del amor, las pasiones que se desencadenan a la par de este, siempre dando una lección moral al final de cada uno.Personalmente disfrute la mayoría de los relatos, aunque la manera de escribir del Márquez algunas veces se torna confusa en general te levantas de la mano en sus historias. un buen libro para ver la otra cara de Sade además de su faceta de pervertido y blasfemo, siempre se encuentra la virtud.

    20. Sade'ın üç hikayesini ve David Coward & Iwan Bloch imzaları altında bir Sade incelemesini içinde barındıran bu kitap, Sade'ın yaşarken yayımladığı kitaplar arasında. Aşkın Suçları aslında on bir hikayeden oluşuyorsa da, Cemal Süreya'nın çevirisini yaptığı cildinde, sırasıyla 'Florville ve Courval', 'Faxelange' ve 'Dorgeville' mevcut. Hikayelerin ortak noktası, erdemin, bir başka deyişle iyinin kötüye mantıkta galip gelmesi. Özellikle Florville'in hikayesi [...]

    21. Nice stories on the overall. But if I could rate the last story of this book I would give more stars! The way he describes the evil in a man's mind is remarkable.

    22. These are superb. Those who refuse to acknowledge Sade for his literary talents (rather than as a mere pornographer), need to read these. Sade knows how to tell a good story."Miss Henrietta Stralson, Or the Effects of Despair: An English Tale"--Set in London, this is the tragic story of an English libertine's attempt to seduce Henrietta Stralson (handsome, clever, rich, etc.) at all costs. She's already married to a Mr. Williams, but Lord Granwel, Sade's lead rake, is determined to have her at a [...]

    23. I found this book and the style of this book interesting. THE whole way through i had people saying "oh you're reading the marquis de sade. Sadistic man" Blah blah. And so i was trying to find THAT in the stories. What I found was that he writes horrible stories that are extreme in the cruelty or whatever but due to the fact that the entire way through he has little interludes about humanity and morals etc it seems to me as if he is less sadistic and more trying to get a point across by using ex [...]

    24. This was the first de Sade book I ever picked up. And it was not my last, although I haven't really gotten around to finishing many of the others! And the stories in this collection still haunt me. I wasn't sure what I was getting into when I first grabbed this book off the Penguin Classics shelf in my bookstore, but I doubt that it was this!On the one hand, I had expected something akin to erotica (mainly because people were so outraged back when he published his works) and it was definitely no [...]

    25. three novelas, each less impressive than the last; eugénie de franval is the best of the lot and most inspired, miss henrietta stralson exploring similar themes and plot devices but in a Less Good way, and florille and courval depicting a series of unfortunate coincidences, rather than individuals who are Obsessed By Cruelty. at his best, de sade's writings here are incredibly filthy and depraved, moreso when compared with other others of the time. no doubt have inspired countless other writers [...]

    26. Quelques nouvelles abordant la fatalité, l'inceste amoureuse et/ou par l'inconnu, donc fatalité encoreLe premier livre de Sade que je lis qui ne contient aucun passage érotique. Bizarre. Mais autant de valeur que du Maupassant ou bien du Poe.J'ai souri, sourcillé, eut quelque sursaut de stupeur et d'incrédulité, les personnages sont près, il n'est pas difficile de les saisir, de les comprendre et de s'y identifier. Notre compassion s'offre même aux malhonnêtes et aux fautifs.Mais trop d [...]

    27. While I am interested in reading more of the Marquis de Sade's work after reading these short stories, I genuinely hope they aren't written in the same bizarre, EC Comics style that these stories are presented. Dear reader, please stop here and don't continue on if you want to be spared the horrors of what happens next! I mean, seriously? All three stories are surprisingly accesible, content notwithstanding (the first story involves incest. The second, a compulsive rapist. And these are the prot [...]

    28. This is a selection from de Sade's book of short stories Les Crimes de l'amour, and it is very untypicall for de Sade, for it seems it doesn't mock the virtue as usuall in his books, but to set it on a piedestal, comparing it as a supreme to evil and perversions. Speaking of evil, this book seriously lacks the sick viciousness of his other famous works. And what do we get when we strip de Sade's prose from all of it's controversy and perversions, torture, rape and insanity? A quite boring book. [...]

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