The Thistle and the Rose

The Thistle and the Rose Jean Plaidy s Tudor series continues with the scandalous and heartbreaking story of Margaret Tudor a princess who leaves England for Scotland and whose future was used to end war and unite kings When

  • Title: The Thistle and the Rose
  • Author: Jean Plaidy
  • ISBN: 9780099493259
  • Page: 233
  • Format: Paperback
  • Jean Plaidy s Tudor series continues with the scandalous and heartbreaking story of Margaret Tudor, a princess who leaves England for Scotland and whose future was used to end war and unite kings.When King Henry VII negotiates peace with Scotland, his daughter s hand in marriage to James IV is the ultimate prize A true princess, Margaret Tudor leaves her beloved England aJean Plaidy s Tudor series continues with the scandalous and heartbreaking story of Margaret Tudor, a princess who leaves England for Scotland and whose future was used to end war and unite kings.When King Henry VII negotiates peace with Scotland, his daughter s hand in marriage to James IV is the ultimate prize A true princess, Margaret Tudor leaves her beloved England and accepts her fate unquestioningly But to her surprise she falls madly in love with the fearsome Scottish King and, as Queen of Scotland, for a while she is happy.But neither the marriage nor the peace are to last When James IV is defeated in battle by Margaret s own brother, the widowed Queen is torn between fleeing to her home and staying to protect her son s future as the new King of Scots It seems that once again Margaret s destiny is not to be her own

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    1. For a book that was number 8 in a series I'd never heard of before, this actually worked very well as a stand alone book. This is the story of Margaret of Scotland, older sister of King Henry VIII of England. You generally don't see too many books about her, so this one was rather refreshing. She'd be considered a fairly modern woman by our standards, 3 marriages, 2 in defiance of her much married brother, & of the Crown of Scotland to boot. However, all 3 of those were doomed to failure, as [...]

    2. *sigh* Margaret Tudor is a horny, horny woman. And kind of dumb, too, when she's being guided by her horniness. "Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. What? He cheated on me? How dare he?! Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. He'll love me and be faithful to me, unlike the last guy. What? He cheated on me?? How dare he?!?! Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. He'll love me and be faithful to me, unlike the last two. " Also throw in that she attempts to lead Scotland [...]

    3. Margaret Tudor (Henry VIII’s older sister) was sent to Scotland when she was 12 or 13 to marry King James IV. She fell immediately in love when she met him, but he died young, in battle. In the years to come, she would fall easily in love and eventually be disappointed. But, she always had her and James’ son, James V, to fight for the crown for. I don’t remember reading anything about Margaret before (though it appears that I have, but it was a number of years ago), so this was quite inter [...]

    4. Margaret Tudor, older sister of King Henry VIII, leaves her home at the age of thirteen to become the wife of King James IV of Scotland. Margaret, her brother, Henry, and her younger sister, Mary are definitely "three of a kind". All three let their passions lead them, and not their heads. When Margaret marries the King of Scotland, she believes he'd be as faithful to her as her miserly father was to her own mother, but when she finds he has several mistresses and illegitimate children, she feel [...]

    5. Not in the same league as Gregory or Weir but I like learning about the loves and losses of Margaret Tudor, Henry's sister. Those Tudors!!!!! They must have been sooooo indulged as children. She married 3 times divorced once. Can't really think of anything wrong about the writing. Would read her again.

    6. Decent story, covering events and a period I am not really familiar with, namely the life of Margaret Tudor in Scotland. However, far too much emphasis on sex and Margaret's love life for my liking. Not that there was anything graphic, it was just tiresome for her falling for one handsome man after another, and incessantly being reminded of how 'passionate' she was.As such, it was hard to sympathize or relate to her as a whiny, sex-mad overgrown spoiled brat who seemed incapable of realizing the [...]

    7. This is a historical novel about King Henry VIII's older sister Margaret who is married off to Scotland. I'd read about Mary, the younger one, before, so i was interested to read more about this sister. This familywow they were just so messed up! There's so many books, movies and shows about them just because if they existed now, they'd be the hit reality show. The spoiled, self-indulgent rich kids living off their daddy's money, who think that no rules apply to them. Margaret seemed even more l [...]

    8. Looking back through teenage reading journals - my auntie had given this for christmas and I seem to have liked it.

    9. I've definitely got mixed feelings about this one. This author churned out over 200 works in her lifetime (under pseudonyms like Victoria Holt and Philippa Carr) so one assumes that some, like this one, can't be super deep. On the one hand, the fact that it was very juvenilely written makes it a great way to quickly and easily learn some basics of Tudor history. On the other hand, the story reads more like a transcription of ordered events than a novel read for pleasure. I decided to take the bo [...]

    10. I've only read one other book based around Margaret Tudor (Philippa Gregory) and this was better overall. It was a quick read and Plaidy does a really good job with the third person perspective in her novels. There were some issues with grammar but otherwise a decent read.

    11. As much as i didn't want to write a review, i had to.Despite the fact i have NEVER read from this author, i really enjoy Tudor History. I have read a lot of history but never got around to Margret. I found myself looking through my book shelf and found this book and decided to give it a try. I was expecting to find this book VERY dry and i was surprised that i didn't. I did have a few problems with the writing style. Jean seems to repeat way to much and whoever edited the book did a very bad job [...]

    12. It is worth starting this by saying I am a huge fan of Jean Plaidy. For her time she was a fabulous figure, writing despite not obtaining a full education, dedicating her life to transforming solid books of heavily compacted history into novels with enough breathing room to garner interest; without being fluffy, as historical fiction these days has a tendency of being. However despite this I found The Thistle and the Rose to be much lighter, more empty, than previous instalments. This isn't to s [...]

    13. Having recently read Mary, Queen of France, I thought I’d read about Henry VIII’s other overshadowed, sister, Margaret. The Thistle and the Rose was not nearly as enjoyable. Margaret was a completely unsympathetic character. She so easily falls in love, but then becomes enraged with her spouses’ infidelity, then forgives, then sulks in a tedious cycle that grows stale by husband number three. She is constantly scheming to gain control of her son who becomes King of Scotland as an infant an [...]

    14. Princess Margaret, sister of Henry VIII, marries King James IV of Scotland at the age of 13. She becomes Queen of Scots and seals a peace agreement between England and Scotland.The story goes: he is so handsome, she is so beautiful, and everything is so peachy until she finds out about his mistresses and illegitimate children. At the age of 17, she gives birth to her first child, a son, and hopes that this will change everything and everything will be peachy and rosy again. But it doesn’t. As [...]

    15. Erasmus warned the royals about trying to create peace or empires through marriage. Certainly marrying the English princess to the Scottish king did not work that way in young Margaret's lifetime. Perhaps, as tutor to one of the illegitimate sons of James IV, it was Margaret whom Erasmus had in mind.This novel humanizes history as we see the events through the eyes of the 12 year old princess. She is clearly a pawn of her father and then of her brother, both of whom prey on her tender years with [...]

    16. An interesting read. I really didn't know a lot about Margaret's life. According to Plaidy's interpretation, Margaret was a pawn in the royal court, constantly searching for true love and never really succeeding. It seemed she was constantly in and out of love which got a little frustrating. The men in her life did little to redeem themselvesJames IV seemed to have promise in the beginning but I think he started her on this path of personal disappoinment. Interesting to read about Henry's disapp [...]

    17. My favourite of Jean Plaidy's Tudor series so far! This is perhaps because the focus shifts entirely from Henry VIII and the English Court (although there are obviously still references to this) to the exciting, rough-and-ready ways of the Scots. Whilst the English courtiers are all flattery and pomp, the Scots are not afraid to rebel and argue amongst themselves which, after so much pussyfooting in the series up until now, is very refreshing and enjoyable to read. I fell completely in love with [...]

    18. I'm not done with this book, but I have like 20 pages left. Ok, I'm NOT a Mary Queen of Scots FanI'm so used to Elizabeth that I really don't dig Mary or her attitude towards things. The story of how she went from Tudor Princess to Queen of Scots is interesting in itself, and I love European history, but Mary drives me flippin' crazyAll I could do is be annoyed at her flippant ways, her pompous pride, and her stupid decisions on men after James IV diedIt's all I can do from just going to the las [...]

    19. Ok, let's just talk about how appallingly dull the last half of this book was. The story follows Margaret Tudor of England who marries James Stuart of Scotland. I learned a ton, but oh my gosh, everyone cheats on each other. England, Scotland, and France were pretty much founded on infidelity and the populations rose from illegitimate children who's dads couldn't keep their parts to themselves.Margaret's life is a bit sad. She's so fickle, it'll drive one mad when reading all the ways she change [...]

    20. This is good for learning about Margaret Tudor, who married James IV of Scotland. It cover a lot of history, and it is for that I gave it this good of a rating.Margaret's life, as shown here, was immoral and repetitious. (That she married thrice is definitely true.) That is not the author's fault. But perhaps the author should have shown instead of told more. Content: Quite a lot about mistresses, lovers, and illegitimate children, but nothing graphic. One case in which telling is better than sh [...]

    21. Jean Plaidy makes historical fiction so interesting - I love her series on the Queens/Other Notable Historical Personages of England. This one is about Maragaret Tudor, who was sent to Scotland to marry one of the Stuarts, and her story there. I quite enjoyed this because I knew so little about Margaret - most of the stories about the Tudors, if they focus on any of the sisters at all - always are about Mary, and her marrying Charles Brandon without asking Henry. So, it was very cool to finally [...]

    22. I think I would have liked this book better if it had been about a period in history I cared more about or knew less about.Ms. Plaidy's facts seem to all be in order, but the perspective is necessarily narrow (what would a Queen know about the lives of the peasants) and the characters come off as a bit shallow and self-absorbed. (Which, credit where it's due, they may very well have been.)Also, in this book's defense, it's quite far into a series I haven't read the rest of, so it's entirely poss [...]

    23. A queen who only found infidelity, The Thistle and the Rose: The Story of Margaret, Princess of England, Queen of Scotland (A Novel of the Tudors) One after another of Queen Margaret 's husbands were unfaithful. She was clearly moved by passion and made her decisions for marriage based upon lust which she mistook for love. As I read the book I started to think: "not again" but to my dismay, she would fall for her weakness. The clans of Scotland were powerful and deceitful. Margaret was easily sw [...]

    24. This novel tells the story of Margaret Tudor, daughter of King Henry VII of England, and sister to King Henry VIII. As a teenager she married King James IV of Scotland in an effort to bring peace between England and Scotland. The rose and the thistle of the novel’s title.Jean Plaidy has written plenty of historical fiction books. This is the 8th in the Tudor series alone. But it is the first one I’ve ever read by her. And I’d have to say I’m not really all that impressed. Full review: su [...]

    25. Confession--I'm slowly becoming obsessed with British history, specifically the Tudor/King Henry VIII era, mainly because I've started watching "The Tudors." I began watching it because Jonathan Rhys Meyers is beautiful, but then enjoyed the show due to it's actual content. Soooo, I'm now reading books on this era.I loved this book and have heard that the other books by her are just as great. A lot of historical facts, but a great, heart-wrenching story. I felt Magaret Tudor's pain the whole tim [...]

    26. Thought it was going to be about Queen Elizabeth I and Mary, Queen of Scots, but it followed Margaret Tudor, daughter of Henry VII and sister of Henry VIII, as she becomes Queen of Scotland. I enjoyed Plaidy's writing as it was not nearly as repetitive as P. Gregory's. Not sure I cared for Margaret herself, but that could be the way Plaidy wrote the character. An extensive bibliography was included so I am sure this historical fiction was highly researched.

    27. Read this to learn more about a branch in my family tree (Kelley-Pease-Warriner-Howard-Douglas-Margaret Tudor (older sister of Henry VIII). The thistle in title refers to Douglas (Scottish royalty) branch and the rose refers to Tudor branch. Book interested me because of possible family tie. VERY confusing, however and book did not confirm the link. Speaking of the literary aspect of this book, it's a bit dry and characters (from history) don't really come alive for me.

    28. I am a huge fan of historic books and know a lot on the subject. I'm not really into historic fiction but this is very interesting. Margaret Tudor is a very interesting person and it is very interesting to see her grow in this book from a teenager thinking she's in love to a very smart women.Someone who I would like to look up too even though this isn't quite the real Margaret :/Bottom Line, It's a Definitely a great book and is keeping me very occupied.

    29. An easy enjoyable read, if a bit repetitive. I realise that Plaidy is constrained somewhat by history, but a lot of this book felt like rinse and repeat: Margaret falls in love, loses all her sense, is promptly cheated on and wants revenge. And this happens, what? Three, four times? I mean it's well-written repetition, but I can only read the same sequence of events so many times before it becomes a little tiresome.

    30. The POV in this story is weird and off-putting. It felt disjointed and skippy feeling. It felt like it was a checklist of scenes that needed to put in, not a real narrative. It was an example of telling, not showing. I also found the characters really annoying. They didn't feel like people, but tropes that were repeated over and over (all of the husbands seemed to have the exact same childish personality). There was no difference between them.

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